Buzzed & Balanced
Buzzed & Balanced
Southern Sass and Drag Class with Graham Morrison: Part 1
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In this hilariously unpredictable episode of "Buzzed & Balanced," the gang—Connor, Colt, Meg, and the spectacularly multifaceted creative Graham Morrison (a.k.a. Anna Yacht)—take us on a wild ride from voice modulation mishaps to drag queen dilemmas, all while trying not to fall off their chairs laughing. Whether it's debating the existential crisis of hearing their recorded voices, navigating the treacherous waters of Hobby Lobby's framing department, or sharing tales of drag artistry and mishaps, no topic is too sacred or too mundane. Add a dash of existential musing on identity, the highs and lows of art school, and the adventures of DIY framing, and you've got a cocktail of conversations that's equal parts insightful and side-splitting. Through the laughter, candid confessions, and unexpected wisdom, "Buzzed & Balanced" proves that life, much like drag, is all about embracing the chaos and making it fabulous.
Buzzed and Balanced Podcast Introduction
Speaker 1I'm not doing the intro. I fucked it up last time.
Speaker 2Welcome to Balanced and Buzzed.
Speaker 3Okay, well, welcome to Buzzed and Balanced.
Speaker 2I'm Connor, I'm Cole.
Speaker 1I'm Meg.
Speaker 4And I'm our special guest, Graham Morrison slash Anna Yott.
Speaker 1Okay, self-intro, let's go.
Speaker 4We didn't even introduce you like oh shit I guess that should have been my job.
Speaker 3I mean, y'all can still introduce me the multi talented creative artistic director drag queen extraordinaire, we're so happy to have you on our first podcast go on no, thank you guys for having me.
Speaker 4This is fun. I'm like obsessed with the setup. I'm like we're right downtown, in the heart of winston we are.
Speaker 3If only they could see the I know we have to do like a pan shot of it you have to trust us.
Speaker 4It looks really beautiful it'll be on the instagram next week.
Speaker 2It looks really pretty. Do your's voice a little weird when you talk.
Speaker 3I mean we're gay as fuck.
Speaker 1No, I mean like in your ears I think you're just surprised at how you sound it sounds a little flanged.
Speaker 3Everyone sounds a little flanged.
Speaker 2I think of how it's coming out of the system. It's a little flanged.
Speaker 1I don't know A little flange.
Speaker 3I don't know my little flange like you mean it's like a little too crispy you always do sound pretty crispy.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, I got my little crispy. Does that sound better? I?
Speaker 2love your voice hold on yeah, it sounded like auto-tune there, all right, well, I feel like pain and I was like don't stop, you can't rock which is the inspiration for our photo shoot.
Speaker 1One of the inspirations oh yeah oh, yeah, okay, I kind of let them handle whatever the fuck we're doing and I just show up the production value.
Speaker 2Yeah, by the way, okay, you're on the wall.
Speaker 4Yeah, please take a look oh my god, I'm obsessed with this. This is so good. I never print well, I don't really print anything off that I photograph, especially not something like that size, because you can't get a size like that printed at CVS, which is the cheap, easy way I usually do it. So I had to go to FedEx. My blood, sweat and tears are in that print. That's just because I had to go to FedEx three times.
Speaker 2Is that 11 by 17?
Speaker 4I think it's 12 by 18.
Speaker 2That is. Is that a 11 by 17? I think it's a 12 by 18, which is I need to put. That is a weird size. I need to put.
Speaker 1I want a bigger frame for it you should get it like you should do the matter.
Speaker 2Yeah, you should do the magic ones.
Speaker 1Yeah, dude, I yeah for my, me and my boyfriend's like three year anniversary minus the year we broke up, but it's basically three years uh I got I got him, like he has so many fucking posters in his closet, and I got three of them framed. When I tell you that custom fucking framing at hobby lobby don't cancel me, fuck hobby lobby, but at a hobby lobby oh my god.
Speaker 1He was like yeah, so either I can cut this down and do it in a pre-made frame, and it'll be $50, or I can custom frame it for $110. And I looked at him and I said are you shitting me right now?
Speaker 4Yeah, I'd rather eat this denim jacket piece by piece than pay $100 something.
Speaker 1I'm like, okay, you guys can suck it. And I said no, so I wasn't that good of a girlfriend.
Speaker 4Hobby Lobby is not an ally, that's a perfect example Exactly.
Speaker 2Yeah, exactly, I think we've all gone there a few times yeah.
Speaker 3Actually, I have a co-worker one time she used to work there a long time ago and she's like not religious super ally. She's, you know, like whatever she was really hung over and she always tells me this story.
Speaker 2Really hung.
Speaker 1Really hung over.
Speaker 3Really hung over and she always tells me this story. It was really hung, really hung over and she walks into work, gets really sick, takes a boss, throws up in it, puts it back on the shelf. She was like fuck this place.
Speaker 2And sorry, I was picturing your workplace with a. Well, I'm sure she's done that too.
Speaker 4Oh yeah, she's that kind of girl we don't have bosses or vases or anything oh, they're like a bottle of, like the water I'm like they are not that gay friendly to sell vases yeah, fun little story from her that we have we only have ocean bound plastic here
Speaker 1at hobby lobby it's like not even a beverage in it. No, really not at all. Oh that's anti-american.
Speaker 3Yeah, oh yeah, I loved it. I thought it was amazing I yeah for christmas.
Speaker 1So me and my boyfriend went uh to this like we had like a dirty santa swap or whatever. So we went to hobby lobby because we were trying to frame a picture for him and we ended up like, as we were going to the checkout, all the frames were like 50 off and so, as we were going to the checkout, 75%, of course, yeah. And we passed this one section and it was like cop propaganda.
Speaker 2Oh.
Speaker 4God, it was just a bunch of blue lights.
Speaker 1Oh, my God, there was this one. It was like a hanging wall piece and it said something about like blessed are the peacemakers whatever the fuck I misquoted the Bible. And then in naturally yeah, naturally and then in the stock photo was a picture of a cop. And then it had like the thin blue line thing and a heart. And we looked at each other and we were like well, we have to put hunter's photo in this, his roommate and we were like we have to fucking get this. And he was like megan, it's 40. And I was like no, no, it's 50 off, so it's only 20.
Speaker 1That meets the limit, because the gift limit was 20 so we show up to the cash register the only black woman working there and then she was like this is 40 and of course I'm feeling all the white guilt in the world, which I mean like shame for even being there in the first place. And then it's like, oh god, we're buying cop propaganda. So of course I'm like doubling down and I'm like this is a fucking like prank santa gift. I swear to god and anyways did you tell her that? Oh, I did because I was like don't take the lord's name in vain yeah, oh dude, she definitely was not with the shit.
Speaker 1she was was like I love the cops and I was like fuck.
Speaker 2Yeah, it was just horrible. She works at Hobby Lobby. Yeah, she's probably trying to protect herself. That's probably on the application. It was still fucking $40.
Speaker 1She was like actually, no, fuck you guys, it is $40. Great, but we had to commit to the bit.
Speaker 4So we ended up buying it.
Speaker 1Yeah, so you, I think you made the right decision for her comedy.
Speaker 2Yeah right, I feel like you kind of had to do it just for the shits and giggles and and it ended up going okay so welcome back to buzzed and balanced, your favorite podcast, where you're fucked up, make believe friends. Us who are great and have great careers and have their lives together, talk to you about porn and our other addictions.
Speaker 3Okay, speaking of porn, so I know we're passing on other things, but really, really quick on New Year's Eve into New Year's Day, like I get home super fucked up and I was like, oh, I want to watch some porn. And I go on to watch porn and they're like we need to see your id. They were telling me to take a picture of my id. I was like, no, honey, I've already dealt with the like legal people in my life. Not, you're not getting my id. I worked hard for the ticket this back dude, I fucking.
Speaker 1Well, I didn't see it, but I was talking to my friends about it the other day, and by friends I mean my boyfriend and my best friend and she. We're talking about lesbian porn. And she was she dabbled in college, right. And she was like, yeah, that's the only porn I watch. When I watch porn, she doesn't do it often and neither do I. And she was like dude, porn hub has this like fucking block. And my boyfriend was like, yeah, dude, you have to like upload your id and I'm sitting here, newly awakened to twitter porn.
Speaker 2So that's all I've been.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's exciting, yeah that's all I've been doing, and so I'm like, oh shit, that's crazy. Thank god I didn't log on, because I'm like, oh my god, the government's watching you. It's nuts, fuck dude.
Speaker 4We can't have nice things Like orgasms.
Speaker 1That's insane.
Speaker 2Thank you, North Carolina. I feel like it is North Carolina. I got that Utah was doing it.
Speaker 1I got that Because they're fucking Mormons and weird.
Speaker 2To do that. Here it's the South. That's our past time you know, there's like a woman she's a porn star okay that I was a spokesperson for the pussy.
Speaker 1I would probably know her name. I don't know. What does she look like? Yeah, she looked like an older one. Why an older one?
Speaker 2like I think she was like maybe like a real profound porn star I my like gay awakening.
Speaker 1Well, first of all, it was megan's body, or jennifer's body, megan fox um, it was megan's body in jennifer's body um, but it was this woman and I remember we were like I don't know if you guys ever had a tumblr oh yes I swear to god we will also get to asking you questions I swear, I'm gonna shut the fuck up, yeah but so we, um, I had a tumblr and there was this woman and I knew she lived in my hometown and, um, she wasn't a woman, she was a girl at the time, whatever, anyways.
Speaker 1So we were tumblr mutuals and then, eventually, we became instagram mutuals when Instagram opened up, whatever. And I remember one day, on Woman Crush Wednesday I don't know if you guys remember that shit. And she posted fucking Faye Reagan, who you guys are gay, so you probably don't know who that is.
Speaker 1I know who Faye Reagan is Dude, hottest fucking redhead alive. And it was this American Apparel shoot she did back in the day and she was like this is my favorite porn star. And from then on on my life fucking changed. I was like all right, yeah, okay, maybe I'll watch porn now. My little christian girl self like looking up lesbian porn with faye reagan and I'm like what is this?
Speaker 4oh, I love that, like I'm feeling something.
Speaker 1Yeah, we love our something's awakening gay yeah, faye made me gay. She's really hot I hope she's doing well.
Speaker 4Sometimes genders have a thing to them, oh my god, dude, I'm obsessed with Chapel Roan now, or however you say her name, chapel Roan, she's the one that sings like Red Wine Supernova. Don't think she's a lesbian, I think she's just by, like most good female musicians nowadays. But Red it's like that Natasha Lyonne, like giant girly.
Speaker 3I still have yet to find that wig I probably could pay somebody to do it, like she looks so good she's stunning and she wears like drag makeup, yes, which is I don't think I know who you guys are talking so she was in orange is the new black right.
Speaker 4Well, natasha leone, but okay, so sorry chapel roan, but she has the natasha leone here but here. But we do love it's like Natasha Lyonne, chaperone and also it's like Chapel or Chappelle, like Chappelle's show.
Speaker 1I feel like it might be Chappelle, but it might be. I think it could go either way.
Speaker 4I love a white girl with an exotic name. You just never know how to pronounce it Wow, she does, do drag. Rebethica or Samantha, and you're like oh, you come from Maryland.
Speaker 2There's not as much about you.
Speaker 1It's.
Speaker 4Sarah.
Speaker 1I've ever seen this woman in my life. She's fabulous.
Speaker 3Yeah, dude, shout out to chapel or Chappelle Roan and also Natasha Leon, but she doesn't need our free promo. Yeah, shout out to all the Queens.
Speaker 1I recently saw this like on my tech talk I have this woman who like reads blind items like celebrity gossip, shit, and it was about like natasha leone doing uh, like bumps during I think it was the emmys or something they were like oh my god, I can't believe she's doing cocaine during the emmys and it's like bitch compared to what what would you be doing?
Speaker 4I'd be doing coke at the emmys like dude, you're gonna sneak in the golden gloves and the oscars, any award and the peabody awards. You know, that's right nobel prize.
Speaker 1That's the thing is like you're not gonna die from that shit and you have someone to test it for you.
Speaker 3That's the thing correct. Like don't die, yeah, yeah yeah, like others, but you yeah, you're good.
Speaker 4That's the sacrifice you have to take.
Speaker 1Yeah, you just have to make it, it's fine, it's a doggy dog world.
Speaker 4You say, a doggy dog world.
Speaker 1It's cute, it's a doggy dog world, my brother.
Speaker 4I thought you said it's a doggy dog world. Wait, is that not what you?
Speaker 1Oh no, I said doggy dog world, but I do have a bit of an accent accent. I love that my dad's from Yeckenville my dad's from Randleman.
Speaker 4Ram Ram alright father we're from Farmington, but it's never Farmington. It's Farmington. There's no G in that, no.
Speaker 1Far farmton.
Speaker 2Oh my god, I'm doing the vape pat, stop touching your titties I mean I had to find the good did you bring enough for the class, yeah your titties don't
Speaker 1let the sports bra fool you.
Speaker 4I have enough for the class everybody believe me, sweetie, I got enough to feed the needy.
Speaker 1I'm gonna start saying that shit, when I feel bad about myself, I'm like okay, yes big titties big titties fuck everything else so
Speaker 4okay graham speaking of big titty bitches, yeah speaking of big titties, but hers are real.
Speaker 2Oh, some are silicone. Yeah, I'll give you some of you want.
Speaker 4Okay, thank you.
Speaker 2Your tits do look good. I saw a great picture the other day before bingo.
Speaker 4I did Shakira solely because, well, A the top I got looked ridiculous without giant jumbo titties, because it's from Shein. And then also I just wanted for the one lyric where she goes Lucky that my breasts are small and humble, so you don't confuse them with mountains. I'm just like titty, jumble Like and humble.
Speaker 1so you don't confuse them with mountains. I'm just like like not give myself a two black, like a pair of tennessee sunglasses, just two black eyes, oh my god, oh jesus, so what?
Speaker 4okay, so I guess we should start with where you're from okay, so do you want to give us a little bit of background before we get into yours.
Speaker 4Absolutely, I was born at a very early age, uh, in farmington, north carolina I actually was born in forsyth county at the hospital because we weren't that backwards but um, no, yeah, uh, from davie county, which is pretty country. One high school, um, and I grew up in farmington, close to the farmington drag strip, which you could hear like night because they like to burn the candle at both ends there. So it was pretty country. It was pretty rural but pretty. A lot of soybean fields and stuff and cows.
Speaker 1Beautiful. No tobacco, good for.
Speaker 3Oh, there was tobacco too.
Speaker 4That was getting to that. Actually, there was probably more tobacco. Actually, I don't think there were soybean fields.
Speaker 1Now that I'm grown up, I'm kind of Now that I think of it.
Speaker 4Actually, when I was born, they just put a cigarette in my mouth.
Speaker 1They said you got this kid. They lit it up. It's like those old smoking.
Speaker 4It's like I started smoking when I was three. I'm like bitch what gonna have right three you don't want to make it to at least 13 but yeah, come on like the rest of us. Yeah, come on, she was a little responsible. But yeah, davy county. And then, um, I lived there till I was 19 and I went to. I went to faux tech because I graduated in 2008 me too uh, yes, best.
Speaker 4That was honestly the last decision I wanted to make, but the best, because I went to unc charlotte the year later for photography school and it sucked um a hot bag of dicks. It was such a joke. Just general college, I mean for art school it's like oh, do you want to take a bunch of classes that have nothing to do with what you want to be?
Speaker 4here, yeah, dude. Uh, so I dropped out. Well, I got put on active probation and suspension and I dropped out and started drinking brunettes, and the rest is her story. Well, by the time it was like actually nice. And I was like, yeah, I don't think this college thing is gonna work like everyone's, like campus pools were open or like the, you know, the off-campus apartment pools were opening. I was like, yeah, I think I'm just gonna be like a hot bitch and go to the gym sometime. You know, basically decided college wasn't really for me, but I lived in charlotte, which had at the time a pretty cool nightlife scene which I had already started going out a little bit because I didn't really drink a lot before I got to college. And then, you know, there was a wednesday night that was at this place called dharma lounge. That was very like la sort of looking club.
Speaker 4It wasn't because it was in charlotte but you know, very like a giant buddha and like dance music, and just everybody was dressed in like their hipster 2009, 2010 fashions like american apparel was right around the corner. Yeah, they didn't hire me in american apparel because I wasn't weird enough. I don't think, dude? Fuck that you didn't fuck like donkeys oh yeah, well, the donkey show, uh, part of the application. I didn't actually get to that american apparel.
Speaker 3What does she do? I thought you meant funk and a donkey.
Speaker 1Yeah, I thought you were going with donkey donkey no but um kendall jenner, I think back in the day she did. I'm I think you're right, jean thing chloe, chloe has good american, good american, she has good american, yeah, never mind, but I do think that kendall part of her modeling career was that I might be making that up that sounds right.
Speaker 2I can see her in that.
Speaker 4Yeah, she was like, I'm also poor, poor queen yeah, I think I think going out in charlotte and doing that like whole counterculture thing, because I've got really obsessed with like the internet, you know, as one does around like 2008 we're really 2007, 2008 with like myspace and stuff and like early youtube videos and just being like oh, there's a whole world outside of davie county, what? A concept in the movie to charlotte.
Speaker 4It was like, oh, there's people that are like the people on the internet yeah, yeah weird um and then, uh, thursdays so wednesday was the like club lounge night and then Thursday was at a place called snug Harbor that's actually still there and they had a drag queer night called ship rocked. Yeah, ship rocked and they were drag Queens and like burlesque performers and I just remember that was the first time I saw a drag queen like in real life and I'm like this is so fucking cool, I love this. So, you know, I ended up moving closer to that area where all the like you know nightlife stuff was at and then just became a ball to rap for like, basically, like eight years oh shit, just like partied and just like but I mean I was doing photography at the time.
Speaker 4I'd already started doing photography in high school, um so, but I was meeting cool people like entertainers, performers, like getting to do promo stuff for them and doing some, you know, like just social, early social media I guess, or like early instagram stuff, and then just kind of, you know, try to develop a style with photography. And then that led into collecting a lot of vintage clothes and wigs and costumes and that's actually how I got into doing.
Speaker 4Drag was because I was like I'm gonna go thrifting because I'm poor but I can go to the bins and find really cool like old clothes for like a dollar yeah and then I'm like some of these fit my ass and now I just got to go get a wig from wherever you got them from at the time not Amazon yeah probably Party City, but very remedial drag. I mean, I literally still wear like $25 wigs now yeah, for the most part.
Speaker 1So it's like well, we went from 10 to 25 dude, I have watched some timu hauls of wigs and I've been surprised. You can be surprised, they get you sometimes.
Speaker 4Yeah, like it's also just knowing how to like put it all together like you can make. Yeah, the 40 look, look like 250 easily, if you just know how to finagle it. Yeah, which is what I'm counting on fingers crossed. It works, yeah, catch me not spending more on a look that I'm gonna make for one like a whole show yeah, probably not gonna happen.
Drag Journey and Evolution of Art
Speaker 1Oh, yeah, do you think that like okay, so, as your career has progressed right. So when did you start? Would you say like rough start of when you started drag?
Speaker 4oh. So it was definitely like as far as on a yacht, like the name and actually like doing shows. That was 2015. And it was at that Snug Harbor club for Shiprocked, which was the drag night. So they were like, oh, we have theme parties and you come dressed up in drag for the themes. Do you want to do a show sometime? And I was like sure, why not?
Speaker 4And for me it was just like have fun getting ready with your friends and they get super drunk and do the show you know show which was probably paid like 25 and like a drink tab, which I'm like oh my god plus like beautiful, yeah, like I'm like oh my god, I'm getting paid for my art. This is so cool, um, but I definitely was not the first few times.
Speaker 1It was definitely messier than not yeah, I don't think there's any video of that did you think, like when you were doing that stuff, did you think it would progress into what you're doing now? Or were you just kind of like I'm dicking around?
Speaker 4I didn't even think that, like two years, three years ago, that like what I'm doing now, would be something I could actually like make.
Speaker 1Be god two years ago back when I was doing clear winston stuff, I didn't think it was this sustainable yeah, dude, okay, because that was vildermort my guy uh, a fucking man I'm not gonna say anything else, but
Speaker 2do you?
Speaker 4there's someone say eric yeah, no, not yet, but I'm glad. Oh sorry, you pieced it together for real dude.
Speaker 1No, fuck him fuck him.
Speaker 3He's literally karma's bitch hoa running ass.
Speaker 1Um, but anyways, my question was so do you think that? Well, I guess you actually just answered that. So, from when you started in 2015 to where you are now like how, how much is like? Do you think like the audience has progressed, as well as like your money making?
Speaker 4right now, like, I think, for me, because I lived in charlotte and then I moved to portland, oregon with my ex at the time, um, so I was there for two years and then I lived in southern california and long beach, but I was doing a lot of shows, like in all over southern california and, like you know, downtown la, and like and like North Hollywood and all over long beach and orange County and just like everywhere sort of in, but like Los Cerritos and all those places.
Speaker 4So I think when I lived in Portland was when it started to. I started to take it more as like an art form but it was also like kind of gate kept by a lot of people.
Speaker 4You know I said gay kept but that was also a Freudian slip. I was gate kept by other queer people because I don't think I was really the kind of queer representation they were looking for as a drag artist because I, like you know, having the beard was fine but out of drag I looked, I guess, sort of normie. I had green hair, I don't know more, what more you could want it from me well it's Portland Oregon, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 4I think it was more like that's like cis male yeah well, it was very like I wasn't cool because they had like a really vibrant queer scene there and I had a lot of like individual friends. But I'd be like why do I not like I go to these shows, I dress up like I can obviously do like pretty cool drag, I think. But I think it was just a little too commercial there.
Moving From LA to North Carolina
Speaker 4And then I was um doing some like open mic, like or not, like open talent nights, where you don't get paid but you it's like 15 performers doing three numbers a piece, you don't get paid but you make like great money yeah um, and the audience is like huge at the more like traditional gay bars um, and that was towards the end of me being in portland, and then the people from like the gay bars are the queer bars um, would see it like, oh, we didn't know you could do this. I'm like, yeah, probably been telling you this for two years, but I'm moving to LA in a week or Long Beach, los Angeles County, and then living in California.
Speaker 4it was more of a who you knew was kind of how you got connections and there was a really wide variety of entertainers there and there was a Hamburger Mary's, really close to where I live, but I met some sort of more counterculture type queens there and it was really diverse people of color and different gender identity expressions. So that was where I really honed in. I was like, okay, I can actually start investing in this drag. My friend, lemon Mering, lemon meringue, she's a what's the?
Speaker 1I'm like she's a not bio queen that's what we said at the time.
Speaker 4Afab assigned female. Oh yeah, yeah. Um, her and her mom actually had a drag costume shop called wiggles in long beach. It was amazing and it was like they would style wigs, because she was a hairstylist but she did like this amazing, like sexy, like like um bimbo clown drag oh, I love like giant boobs and big, like elvira hair and like a snatched waist, and um, that's why I was like, okay, like I can actually afford this 150 wig, because we're gonna do it as a trade, um.
Speaker 4And so I started investing more in drag and being like I can actually start like doing shows and making money off of this. And then I ended up leaving la right before because I went through a breakup left la right before covid came back here. Um, it was like january of 2020 and then it was like then covid happened. It's like no bitch, you live here. So I didn't do it for like over a year, like here at all, because it's like where was I gonna do it?
Speaker 1yeah, I was. That was. My next question is like why the hell, would you? Come back. No, I know, I did not want to interrupt you. Like I'm like so enthralled because I don't know this shit and I like I guess y'all really know this shit. I knew some, yeah but I guess I'm just like as someone who's lived in winston for 27 years, I'm like why the fuck would you come back here?
Speaker 4like I love it, but I'm like well, I think living in la was more of a like experience that I always wanted to have. Like it was definitely something that I kind of manifested because I had, um, there was this band holy child that I really loved and they, um, they were based out of la at the time and actually my cat, louie, is named after the guy louie from the band and I remember putting that out like well, then it gets even better because I'd put them on my vision board like years before and like this um, uh clip from them from this music video called power play that they have, that I love and it's just them all over la. I'm like this looks like the life. This is so beautiful and colorful and primary colors and vaguely vintage and amazing. And then we ended up moving to la because my ex had gotten a job opportunity there. I'm like let's do it.
Speaker 1This is what's going to save our relationship, right?
Speaker 4Oh God, yeah, but also a cool opportunity and then towards the second half of me living there. A friend came and visited from Charlotte and then I showed her some of the videos. She's like you should reach out to them if they're in LA. I mean, they haven't even done anything in like two years. I don't think they're a band anymore. And then I sent their PR people an email and they got back to me. They're like we're actually putting together our final album and I got to do a bunch of promo photos with them and then I ended up shooting their final album cover. Like and it was the month before I left was like the last show that they did together as a band. So it was just sort of like weird moment to go from like this career high. I also got only 150 from the record label for shooting it. So that's the thing. It's like all your dreams can come true, but will you be compensated?
Speaker 4yeah, true, really depends but but no, we were going through. I was going through a really tough, really really awful like abusive relationship on both ends, like me and my ex. But oh, he was cheating on me and got herpes so, which I didn't because we weren't having sex celibacy yeah, celibate.
Speaker 4Yeah, you know, sometimes, sometimes not having sex with your partner does have its benefits. Um, but no, I mean we just had been together, since we were like I was 25, he was 26 and I was you know, am I like almost 30 at that time. So, um, he moved back to portland and I was left there in la to figure everything out with the apartment stuff and I was like, well, I gotta at least get the deposit back. So I just cleaned the entire thing, got ready to leave, took my cat and as many vintage clothes and lights and my iMac and just put it in my key of soul and drove back directly from long beach to farmingmington, north Carolina.
Speaker 2That's insane.
Speaker 4In like a week. I stopped off in some places I didn't know.
Speaker 3you drove back.
Speaker 4Yeah, I mean, with how much of a piece of shit my car is now, I'm honestly like thank you, I can't believe it actually made it back.
Speaker 1I mean a Kia Soul.
Speaker 4I was just smoking a salvaged title, kia Soul that I got for $6,300. Wow, but I've definitely put at least that much in in the past three years. Oh, my god, I was just smoking yellow American Spirits like driving on the interstate, like listening to whatever Norman fucking Rockwell by Lana Del Rey, sleeping in like motels with the cool little keychains that, like a veteran and his wife owned.
Speaker 1Oh my god, I feel like you know what that's character development. I feel like oh yeah. I mean obviously like horrible fucking relationship Like that that sucks so much to like put your trust and love into someone and then move with them and then it to end like that.
Speaker 4Oh yeah, I sold my place in Charlotte to be able to afford to like be out there and stuff. So I didn't even have that to come back to.
Speaker 1Exactly, thank God, because I don't want to live in charlotte again. Dude, yeah, fuck charlotte.
Speaker 4And then coming back to farmington, I feel like and so I'm assuming you moved it back in with your parents during that time, my dad and I was like well, I'll just, like you know, be here um and get back on my feet, figure it out, or maybe I'll just, you know, stay in winston for a little bit. But at that point covid was just kind of like beginning to be sort of a murmuring yeah murmuring pre-shock, not after, I don't know.
Speaker 4It was about to be a shit show. I think we all kind of knew it. But um, yeah, I moved in with my friend britney, who I'd been best friends with since we were like 11 or 12. We went to middle school together and she, she's she owns the humblebee here in town.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 4So I moved in with her in John Michael's old room.
Speaker 3Yes.
Speaker 4Shout out John Michael. And then I was there for about a month and then I worked at Design Archives. I had a booth there and everything was just kind of like, well, I'm here, Let me make the most of it. And then COVID happened and it was just like, yeah, you're not going anywhere. And it was just like, yeah, you're not going anywhere. And it was just sort of like I knew the relationship wasn't going to work out the long distance, but just still being strung along with that and I don't know. It was just definitely like a dark. It was like a tough time because I didn't have any friends here yet. I mean, I had Brittany, but like she was working all the time and you know, it was like we're roommates.
Speaker 1So yeah, that was tough dude, and then being thrown into a pandemic.
Speaker 4So it's like you don't even get the chance to meet anybody else either, like that, or really work with people, which was always kind of my like connection is like, oh, let's do a photo shoot, like, and I did a couple, but even then like people were getting blacklisted for going out and doing photo shoots I'm like yeah I'm not going to. It's literally not that important.
Speaker 1Yeah, like you, yeah, you want to.
Speaker 4You know, stay safe and also like instead a good example too, yeah exactly, yeah, like, because that's the thing I feel like.
Speaker 1It's like you can like do photo shoots as safe as possible, but when people see them it's like, oh you're, you're still going oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, and I think that was sort of the thing at the time.
Speaker 4It was like I don't know if people had fomo or what, but they definitely were like dog piling on people, that which I mean, I get it. Some people were doing, like you know, dangerous stuff, but it's like I go to tanglewood and shoot someone and they're six feet away, like you can eat my whole ass.
Reflections on COVID and Drag Performances
Speaker 1Exactly right, this is not the same. Yeah, yeah, I, yeah, I feel you in that. That show is definitely like. I feel like. It feels like such a fucking fever dream. Like that whole year of just like Did you ever get COVID? I yeah, which actually I didn't get it until. So it was when. I don't know if you guys remember this like distinct switch like I did. So it was. You know, original COVID absolutely sucked and then sometime in November of 2021, it turned into like Delta, which was like the less.
Speaker 2No, it was like the less bad one or whatever.
Speaker 1But I am immunocompromised because I do this thing that's like basically chemo, whatever. And so I remember I got COVID and I was like oh great's the delta version, like I'll just have a cold like it's fine dude, sick as a fucking dog I've never felt worse in my life and that's the only time that I've gotten it, and so like I do feel lucky about that, but it definitely was just like. Oh, I can see why this ruins people's lives oh yeah, it's horrifying it definitely was I yeah and people were dropping left right.
Speaker 4Oh my God.
Speaker 3My Opa. Like my granddad, we call him Opa. He's German, he passed from COVID and even during that time, which sucks so hard because, like you, couldn't be there- oh yeah, you had to talk. I had to talk to him between like a glass.
Speaker 4Oh God, we were outside.
Speaker 3He was inside his door. That led outside and you had to talk and of course you know he's like dementia, like has no idea what's going on, so like yeah, and then the only way like my mom was able to go in and say goodbye. She had to put a hazmat suit on. It was like a whole thing, oh my god. And it was just like, yeah, what a shitty fucking time.
Speaker 4Like I mean my grandparents got it like three times a piece, so my people was like 90. And I'm like my grandma's also had cancer like seven times Like let's go clogging.
Speaker 1I'm like I've got Janet.
Speaker 4Wagner, you better work. I'm like I hope I got some of those genes. But yeah, I mean, that's just like it was just such a weird devastating time and I think you know I, I ended up, um getting my own, like I ended up finding a home because I had some money left over from when I'd sold my place in charlotte. Thank god, um, because the plan was originally be like maybe I'll go to new york, maybe I'll go to atlanta, maybe I'll go to chicago, like maybe I'll go to one of these other places I've never spent more than a week at, and like just blow through this money, I guess, and blow through whatever else, and just kind of figure it out, people, and you know I, just had no plan yeah um.
Speaker 4So when covet happened it's like all right, I have to stay put. And luckily I was able to find like a. Really I mean it's nice now. But it was kind of a shitty fixer-upper um condo that was for sale and it was like 50 days into covet, so like nobody knew what the market was going to do. So I was able to get it my dad's like okay, we can fix this up nice.
Speaker 4Oh yeah, it was like uh, let's just, let's just say I don't think I'm ever going to be able to get a home again.
Speaker 4Um, yeah, unless you have, like mommy, daddy, money, which I don't but it was the kind of thing which, like, luckily my dad, who I had kind of a strained relationship with growing up but we'd, you know, kind of come a long way, but he's, um, he had like done general contract work my whole life, so he was like, all right, we can like get in here, gut it like, rip out the floors, redo everything, and it's just like, well, I'll pick the floor color, yeah, and by that I mean the paint color on the walls, because I'm like I don't know what's.
Speaker 1There's two types of brown like but please, I do need to know this, now that that you've said that, do you have that gray vinyl plank flooring?
Speaker 4oh my fucking god no thank fucking god, dude, there was a lot of carpet in there and it had been a lot of renters and there was definitely some people that like, yeah, pets can poop and pee in the house, like why not? So I was like it's got to go, but no, there was no.
Speaker 1No, no, no no dude, that shit is I so like working in real estate like wood vinyl.
Speaker 4Oh no, no that shit is like not to be a snob, but I'd kill myself oh my god, no, literally. I looked at this house that that came on the market today.
Speaker 1It was listed for like over 800. And I looked and I was like, okay, yeah, you have like 500,000 square feet, but you also have a front-facing garage and gray vinyl plank fucking flooring For 800?
Speaker 3For 800. Where is this home?
Speaker 1Fucking. I think it was in it either in brookberry or lake lacera and uh, dude, I'm like you're living in fucking louisville.
Speaker 4Yeah, oh, my god, I was literally gonna say, was it?
Speaker 1yeah, yeah, bitch. It was in fucking louisville and I'm like you have a front-facing garage. That's my biggest fucking thing. I remember I met this guy at a bar one time and I was drunk. I feel very bad about this, but I met this guy at a bar one time and he was talking and I was like oh, what do you do? And he was like oh, I work for such and such like construction company like these homes. And I looked at him and I said you guys need to stop putting fucking garages in the front of your homes what the fuck are you doing?
Speaker 1I swore dude, and you're paying four hundred thousand dollars for that shit. Put it in in the back, put it on the side. Like I know, we don't do basement garages anymore, but like suck my dick, dude, it looks horrible Shit I prefer just like a carport or something. Oh my God, right, because it's like you lack the symmetry that's the thing about. Like historic homes or like bay window and then a like descended like porch on the other side, like there's always this symmetry and it's like homes now are just anyways.
Speaker 4I'm not. Yeah, my have a carport instead probably doesn't do a whole lot for the visual aesthetic, but I do love a good vintage carport moment.
Speaker 1Right, exactly, but you know, come see, come saw.
Speaker 3Okay. So question then, Going back more into like drag when was your first performance after like COVID? Essentially, yeah. How was that? Like getting back into Did?
Speaker 2you do cam shows yeah.
Speaker 4Yeah, I did?
Speaker 2I saw your pussy online. Yeah, I did a little, only fan.
Speaker 3And I'm sure it was like a great moment. Yeah To like, yeah, no.
Speaker 4So I um, the first show I actually did was at camel city playhouse, um, and it was called, like art C at the time, artc Um, and I had met CC Libri, um, out at single brothers and I was just in drag and this was um, oh, and also I had gotten sober at some point during this, like April at some point. Yeah, it's a fun time Um cheers Um, um. That's over is there alcohol in these? Yeah, no, no, oh god, no, honey what kind of mother do you think I am?
Speaker 1why do you want a little?
Speaker 4because you're gonna drink it. Rather you do in the house or the apartment. Well, they threw the only ones on this floor. So who's gonna judge? Yeah, no. So I um, I met cc and she's like, oh, you're a drag queen. I'm like, yes, I was in drag. And she's like, I have a variety. If memory serves, it was a variety show that they were doing. And she's like do you want to be in it? I'm like, sure, so I did that, and that was the first show I'd ever done sober in my life.
Speaker 1Oh.
Speaker 4Which was a little terrifying, but it was fun. It went really well. I don't remember what the second song was, but the first one I did was Julie Brown's version of Earth Girls Are Easy from the movie Earth Girls Are Easy, which is about falling in love with this alien and fucking it essentially. But this 80s Julie Brown Valley girl. It was very experimental for um uh the time, I guess I've never even heard of that.
Speaker 1Oh, earth, girls are easy it's my.
Speaker 4It has gina davis um. Uh, was it gold? Was it? Was the guy um? Jeff goldblum yeah, like a young, sexy, like sleek, like just oily jeff goldblum um yes a young Jim Carrey, of course. Angelina's like billboard queen from LA. She's like got a cameo and it's really, really good. It's my favorite movie of all time. It's so stupid and campy and like very must watch Britney Spears and Azalea pretty girls videos based off of it. So it's very that aesthetic you remember that very much but yeah, so I did it.
Drag Name Inspiration
Speaker 4It was great. I mean the response was amazing, you know, especially for like doing bearded drag, which at the time I don't think cc was doing bearded drag, she shaved and stuff, but um, it was cool to like get the just recognition in a place that I'd never thought I would come back and live in, let alone like be able to perform in yeah and then, you know, she introduced me to eric from queer winston and I started doing those brunches.
Speaker 4The halloween one was the first one I did and that was huge yeah um, and I did a sabrina number and I did like yeah that was this. That was the next year. I did sabrina and I did hypodermic sally. That's right. Yeah, and it was a gag. It was super fun. I think that's the first time I saw you. I think it probably was, because that was October of, I guess, 2021.
Speaker 32021. Yep, it was. Yeah, I didn't start going to those until 2021. Yeah, wow, oh my gosh. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4Because the holiday ones. That's where me and you and Casey took that picture. She's wearing the red gloves and I did the titty bib, I did coconuts because that was what we were listening to oh, I remember that.
Speaker 3Oh shit, yeah, because I have a photo with you, like you're sitting on the chair and then I'm like standing next to you in like a romper with caps.
Speaker 4I saw that photo came up on my while I was looking at old. I was like oh, my. God, this was so fucking long ago.
Speaker 1Dude, I think the first time that I ever saw you was at a bar Pina thing, because you would do them there right.
Speaker 4Yeah, the first two Yacht House parties were actually there. Yeah, okay, and the first one was amazing, yeah, and the second one was not. Well, they, they also gave me like three weeks. They're like let's do it a week after Pride and it rained, and like you had not two months to plan it, but you had less than a month. And I'm like okay. I can tell you all about this, pena's only good when it's nice out.
Speaker 4Yeah, and we had a DJ and stuff. I was like, well, I'm not going to put my DJ up on the roof, like that's not fair to like, if it's even misting.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 4But it was fun.
Speaker 1They just don't have the space to like facilitate having that many people or performers, and it's split, so it's tricky but that's why we love joy mongers Dude joys is probably one of my favorite places in the world, and I remember like there was this one time that like I walked in and it was when I like first found out that Winston was even fucking doing drag shit. It was me and my boyfriend and his mom and we walked in and like we're regulars there I hate to admit it, uh, but we're regulars there and so we walked in and I was like and they stopped us at the door and they were like, oh, do you have tickets? And I was like what the fuck are you guys talking about?
Speaker 1like this is a fucking sunday, like what are you talking about? And then I looked over and I saw all the drag queens and I was like I did not know.
Speaker 3Brian was down like the owner I was like I did not know he was down like that, like what the fuck?
Speaker 1is going on, what the fuck? And that's when I realized I was like oh shit, I should really clue into queer winston-salem, because I was part of the page, because I worked with lindsey yeah, and so like I knew that it was a thing, but I had no idea that it had gotten that big now, did you buy a ticket and go in?
Speaker 1um, it was sold out, so congratulations, um, but fuck you guys also. Yeah, that was the only time I would get my boyfriend's mom to ever do anything like that. She's, I love her. I love you jul.
Speaker 4Julie Shout out to.
Speaker 1Julie. Anyways, but I do, I'm going to. Okay, I'm going to take it back a little bit. So how the fuck did you come up with the name on a yacht?
Speaker 4Oh, yeah, okay. So I really struggled with coming up with a good drag name. That wasn't stupid. Yeah, I had a couple. One was going to be Misty Sims, like Misty Slims, like the cigarettes, but like the Sims.
Speaker 1I love that.
Speaker 2It was not. Yeah, my cat's name is Misty.
Speaker 4Oh the sets. Well, it was because of your cat, yeah it was Love her. That I just found out about eight seconds ago, but that was one. One was going to be like they didn't. The ones that didn't work were so bad that like it's I'm gonna mention many ways but one was gonna be like something like tina fey breeze, like tina fey but like febreze. But it just didn't work because, like it's not called fey, you have to enunciate it like that every time.
Speaker 2Tina fey, I know how it's spelled, but like it was so stupid but growing up I I listened to this band.
Speaker 4Yacht um who I still love, and actually like they had a song on the grand theft auto 5 soundtrack. Psychic city the classics remix oh my god, that's like that's why I do the peace sign, is because of that hot lindsey lohan ripoff um cartoon girl, um. But no, so I I was like I like, I love this band and I actually had gotten to, um, I got to work with them at moog fest, which is the big synthesizer music festival Like a year after I started doing drag.
Speaker 4So it was this weird, I don't know. I guess I've had some weird like full circle moments when it comes to like working, you know, piecing it together, Um, not to be like, but like it's just like the. I loved actually my friend Larkin. Her sister's name was, like it's, anna Carpenter she's married now so it's something else.
Speaker 4But she spelt it A-N-N-A and she looked like Alison Williams from Girls to me, and Marnie was my favorite character. So I don't know, for some reason I loved how the name Anna was spelled other Anna's, I'm just Anna Kendrick but they all spell it like a, n and a. It's Anna. So I was like what if it was Anna? Like how she spelled it. And then on a yacht and people still say Anna.
Speaker 3I love. I must say I love how people are like. So like, do you know, anna yacht and I go? I know an on a yacht, thank you so many people say Anna. It's like every single time I was like it's a play on word.
Speaker 4And then people don't get it. How would you not understand that? Well, they're all like Because they're spelling it how they're used to seeing, or they're saying how they're used to seeing Anna spelled.
Speaker 3Yeah, I guess that's fair, but they still do it. Oh yeah, I'll tell them like no, it's Anna.
Speaker 4And they're like so are you going gonna go see Anna.
Speaker 3I'm like girl it's funny.
Speaker 4It's good that it's not like it would like banana or something you know, but it's like banana. Banana yacht would have not made any fucking sense. Why bring it up? But yeah, so I don't know, it was like. It was one of these like aha moments where it's like, oh, that's it, that's the name and I'm pretty like plus. I just feel like it describes sort of the character that I want to portray, which is this kind of like, I don't know, multifaceted, like female, like feminoid sort of like. Not necessarily. She's not even really a drag queen, even though it's like she has a beard. She's more of like representative of a women.
Celebrating Diversity in Drag Shows
Speaker 4That have inspired me like my mom, or like Anna Nicole Smith or Valley Girls, or like 80s businesswomen or like Jewish aunties or like these different motifs that I really am like obsessed with. Yeah, 90s power lesbians um, because I don't really want to look at drag through like the gaze of the gays it's like.
Speaker 4I mean it's like like feminist, first and foremost, as far as like what inspires, like, if you're not to me, I mean, people can do drag, however, or like you know, in whatever way they like, but it's like, if it's not intended to celebrate femininity and like female archetypes and characters and sort of this, like like goddess worship, then it's not really, it wouldn't be, it's not on brand for me, I guess is my intention, but there's a there's an easy way to make something really um kind of irreverent.
Speaker 4It's like you have to kind of skirt the line between being irreverent and like sort of making a commentary, versus being like taking the piss out of something and making fun.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I feel like every show that I've seen you do as well as like all of the people that you have like worked with and done shows with it's always just like in awe of, just like you guys really do such a good job of putting on a fucking show and it never feeling like you're clowning anybody and I feel like it really and granted, I do not have like other drag shows to like foil that with but you, but you can see how easy it would be to go into that territory exactly.
Speaker 1It's like you guys always, every fucking time, are putting on this show. That's just like hot bitches doing hot shit and it's never like, oh, I'm going to like hyper sexualize myself as a woman to make fun of them.
Speaker 4It's always hot bitches doing hot right, well, and we have burlesque, we have new york burlesque, we have queens, we have, like a variety, of you know, different backgrounds and gender, gender identities, because to me like that's more entertaining than just seeing like a bunch of cis white gay guys up there portraying women exactly.
Speaker 3Yeah, you don't see that a lot, even in other cities.
Speaker 4Yeah, I've been to even bigger cities like it's.
Speaker 3Yeah, I'm kind of surprised.
Speaker 4Well, the first time I mean it really sort of um stuck out to me is when I did the vixen show at um barnola and um, they, you know, had me in as like a kind of like a special guest, you know, because it's like they're all like, I mean, they're female identifying um, but they're neo burlesque, so, like our you know lindsey's in there, and like kate and jess and molly and hannah, you know, erica, like it's just an amazing group of people. Venus was in there at the time, so they had, like you know, trans woman and then they had a drag queen. But like, when we got ready backstage, like they just welcomed me in with open arms, I was like I feel like one of the girls, but not in, like, oh my god, this is so, such a novelty. It was like I just felt welcomed in and I'm like why shouldn't we have this crossover? Yeah, it's like it's so so much more entertaining to see variety.
Speaker 1Yeah, I think it's honestly like really beautiful. I remember one time when I was at small batch and there was a drag show there and it was the first time that I'd ever seen a drag king I had only ever seen drag queens and it was this like he was dressed up as post malone and I was. I'm a huge post malone oh, I love that.
Speaker 4I bet you were living dude. I you're blushing right now talking about it.
Speaker 1I know I am, I have this video on my phone of me in this drag king, just like.
Speaker 3Well, that's good, because I think he could be a little fruity, I hope I, I want to marry him, I of me, in this drag king, just like I'm obsessed with Post. I listened to his whole album today.
Speaker 2Well, that's good, because I think he could be a little fruity.
Speaker 3I hope. I want to marry him.
Speaker 1I am obsessed with him. I love him. You never know so fucking much.
Speaker 2I'm like there's something about that dirty rat, sewer vibe.
Speaker 1I know a lot of really like hygienic women that love him.
Speaker 4That's fascinating to me.
Speaker 1All my exes look like him, other than my current boyfriend, who is blonde, which I recently saw a TikTok, that, that is Apparently he was.
Speaker 4Did he go blonde?
Reflections on Self-Love and Relationships
Speaker 1This man, no, this man was talking and he was like you know, I think, as a culture, like we're past saying you know, people can't like. People can date whoever they want, like men and men, girls and girls, trans and whatever the fuck and he's like. But one thing that we can't allow is blondes dating other blondes oh, I saw that blue-eyed people dude, yeah, and all I could think about is I was getting lunch with it is a bit corny oh, it's, oh, it's bad. My like mentor um from when?
Speaker 1I was in the aryan race, yeah he literally he was like you guys are just gonna like drop another bomb. We cannot let you guys get back together.
Speaker 3It's like fuck I'm not even gonna open my mouth about that I'm a blonde hair. Blue-eyed person. I know because I am blonde everywhere.
Speaker 1I thought that the curtains and the drapes were inspired.
Speaker 3I thought that's what inspired this. I blue eyed person.
Speaker 2I know because I am blonde everywhere.
Speaker 4Yeah, I felt that the curtains and the drapes were inspired. I thought that's what inspired this. I thought it was like yeah, no mine black sparkle. Yeah, okay, sparkle all the way down shut the fuck up.
Speaker 1It was with my mentor and she was like I've never dated a blonde yet she was like. I have a question, though, like your, boyfriend does look a lot like you would have a brother, like do you know that? Has anybody ever told you that? That you guys look like brother and sister? And I had to look this woman. She's fucking like 55 years old.
Speaker 4I always get that my ex that I dated in um the bad the herpes one, yeah uh, he had like dark blonde hair and like blue eyes, but there would be pictures of us together and people be like y'all look so similar. It's something about when you spend enough time with someone, you just start like there's like people that look like they're animals.
Speaker 1We have morphed into each other. I swear to god.
Speaker 4And it's like when we're attracted to similar features, sometimes that you know and other people that we have ourselves I will say what my friends used to make fun of me because they were like.
Speaker 1I used to say, yeah, like he's the first person I have issues, but all my friends were like he's the first person you've ever been able to like open your eyes during sex with and I was like, yeah, like it's crazy, like I love him, like you know and all my friends would be like no, megan, it's because he looks like you and you're obsessed with yourself.
Speaker 4Oh my God, that's fabulous, and I was like okay, yeah, you're kind of.
Speaker 1I mean like you're kind of right like yeah obviously like if I had a clone I would fuck her. I'm you know, come on.
Speaker 3Yeah, come on, I would fuck. I would fuck my own ass, right?
Speaker 1oh my god like come on you my legs yes, dude, come on. I I feel like you've reached like peak self-confidence, which, like, obviously, I have my own little moments of insecurity, like we're all adults, you know everybody does. But there's some moments where it's like, oh yeah, wait, no, hold on.
Speaker 4Like I am kind of sexy I don't think I want to date myself at all, but I would definitely. I would definitely be like let's 69 yeah, yeah, for sure that'd be fun.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, but what?
Speaker 4if you turned yourself down.
Speaker 1What if you hit on yourself? And then?
Speaker 4the other you was like no, I don't even want to get coffee, oh my. God dude I'd kill myself the other version of me.
Speaker 1Yeah, I would kill the other version of me for sure, because I'd be like what the fuck do you mean?
Speaker 4Yeah, I would kill the other version of me for sure, because they'd be like, what the fuck do you mean? And I was like, oh, I was the evil clone. All along we knew it. Wow, that's great oh my god Well that's a nice thing to think about. Fucking yourself I mean fucking yourself.
Speaker 1We have a funny kind of drawing.
Speaker 2There we have a friend who we were eating tacos it was taco night and right in the middle, you know, chow down on some chicken and beef tacos he goes uh, yeah, of course I fucked myself, who hasn't? And we were like, okay, this is funny, right. But then he really meant it. He with his own weenie, yes. And then I think maybe it was me and you, or maybe me and like somebody else we were trying to explain like no, it's because, like we're younger and I don't think we're as flexible like our dicks stick kind of up phone, you mean he turned his weenie around, stuck it in his booty.
Speaker 1That's like, yeah, really sad, but it would probably just be just the tip right like there's no way yeah, no, no, no, we've, we've seen it.
Speaker 3He shows it to all of us at the bars oh cool, that's actually really cool charming we're gonna block it up yeah yeah you're like girl, stop like. We've all seen it, girl.
Speaker 2Wait, how old is he? 48.
Speaker 4The way we both tried to like compete. Yeah, how old did you think he was?
Speaker 1I don't know Like 40, but not 48.
Speaker 3Yeah, she is.
Speaker 2I don't know, but he she tries to be younger than she really is. She's rusty, she is.
Speaker 1She's so all I remember is him telling me about like being a medium, one time when he was really drunk and I was like oh that's so cool.
Speaker 3She's had a lot of shit and I hope you're watching this, yeah I was like, oh okay, like that's really sick.
Speaker 1What does my nana have to say to me? Like, are we cool? Does she like my boyfriend?
Speaker 2yeah, that's yeah. I wouldn't take anything nanny says about your boyfriend I mean probably just wants to fuck him for himself he fucked himself yeah, he fucked himself, so so he says so he says well, you've seen pictures right?
Speaker 4no, but then I did, I did google it, you can oh yeah, and I was like oh, you can yeah, oh same.
Speaker 3Oh, you've seen that we watched. Guys haven't like a big enough one, but like and if they're really big.
Speaker 2sometimes they're like like I've been with a guy who he had like a nine inch dick, but it was like floppy mcflopperson, like it wasn't, like it didn't stand at attention when you were like, hey, I'm here, it was like I'm too cool to get up.
Speaker 3That's so sad.
Speaker 4I was going to say the opposite. I'm like, oh my god, just a long, flaccid dick. I would just be like like no Right, oh.
Speaker 2I love it. No, he was hard. It just kind of like went like this it had a curve. It knew curve it was going okay I mean. I mean I wouldn't want to get fucked, but that's the sad thing about big dick gay guys is, like you know, you're not fucking anybody dude, for the most part yeah, I true I don't know you bottom bitch I yeah, we love a bottom bitch a big dick, bottom bitch, that's I don't care about your big dick.
Speaker 3I love a big dick bottom bitch.
Speaker 2I don't care about your big dick. I love a big dick. I think they're just fun to play with Aesthetics.
Speaker 3It's a fun thing. Don't fuck me, the people I date, I'm like nope, you can't have a big dick and they've never had a big dick and it's been great, you can't do it.
Speaker 2Yeah, I wouldn't. I don't know if I'd love to date their special occasion dick.
Speaker 1I like having a boyfriend, dick that's like mine.
Speaker 2I'm a narcissist. I want the same thing.
Speaker 1Yeah, but then like a special occasion dick yeah I think me and my boyfriend could both appreciate that yeah just look at that thing that's interesting I definitely am like the of the camp and we're gonna have to cut this out, but the okay it hurts less when they tell you they love you yeah, okay, well, oh, my god, the other that's like a quote from something that I don't remember the source the other word, because it's a lie when they tell you that
Speaker 2they love you.
Speaker 1That's a lie oh yeah that is a lie when they tell you that they love you, dude, we had sex on saturday morning and we it was like that, like sweet tender, like saturday morning sex, like it was so nice. We hadn't had sex in a week because I hadn't seen him, yeah, and so it was so sweet, whatever. And he, like you know, he finished like, lays down next to me, smiling at me, and I look at him and I'm just like I love you. He gets, he laughs at my face and he's like megan, shut the fuck up.
Speaker 4He gets up don't ruin this moment by acknowledging it.
Speaker 1Yeah he gets up, he gets water, he sits on the couch. I text him and I was like are we in a fucking rom-com? What the fuck do you mean? You just walked out of the room and he was like obviously I love you, babe. But that was just like, why the fuck would you say that? Right then. And I was like okay well, come on, I thought we were, that we were having a moment was this more recent?
Speaker 3this was like this past saturday.
Speaker 1Yeah, this was like this past saturday and I was like babe, like this was, we were having a moment and he was like baby, obviously I love you, but that was not. I did not expect to hear that out of you?
Relationship Dynamics and TikTok Trends
Speaker 4I don't remember eating corn.
Speaker 1Yeah, because even in like you know, when you're in the honeymoon phase, in the first like four months, even when we were in that like I don't know, I can't get past that.
Speaker 3So I don't know, hey Can't get past that.
Speaker 1When we were in our little like you know, lover girl eras he was like we never said that shit, we, we never were like super lovey-dovey after sex because we're both so intense and insane about it was more primal, probably, as it tends to be in the beginning.
Speaker 1So it was just like that kind of thing where he was like it also happens at the beginning, which is nice yeah. And so three years later he's like you've never said that I don't know what like he was just kind of like taking him back and he's like obviously I love you, but like I just didn't know what the fuck why would you say that to me?
Speaker 1why would you say that like okay, you're gonna, I'm gonna put you on TikTok and all the girls will eat you up, because you said that shit to me, so you won't peel my orange.
Speaker 4So is that it yeah?
Speaker 1no, that's like a like a TikTok trend.
Speaker 1No, he will do that and he'll do it well but give me that but no, there's like this tiktok trend going around right now and it's all like you have to ask your partner, like if they'll peel an orange for you, because it's such like a small gesture and it's like something you could do yourself, but would they do it for you? So it can kind of be anything like oh, will you give me a glass of water? Oh, will you peel my orange? Oh, will you cut this up for me, whatever? And it's like if your boyfriend says no, that's like a larger picture of like they don't care enough to do little things for you, cause if they cared they would they would Exactly at remedy.
Speaker 1And I was like scrolling twitter and zach, like always, like I always share my screen with him and I was like I saw something and I looked at him and I was like would you peel my orange? And he looked at me and he was like meg oh, my god, I'm not participating in your little tiktok trends and just to piss me off, he was like no, I wouldn't peel your orange.
Speaker 1And I was like I know you're lying. And he's like yeah, obviously I'm fucking lying. I was like I know you're lying and he's like, yeah, obviously I'm fucking lying.
Speaker 2He was like I'm not going to give in to your bullshit, your Gen Z, shit that you do Okay, boomer, also pause.
Speaker 4I have to pee. Really bad, yeah, me too. Yeah, we all have to pee.
Speaker 3And I want to eat some chips. P. I want to eat some chips Feet break.
